I'm absolutely intolerant of scum and dangerous dirty ideas

that alcohol is good

that drugs are good

that meaningless sex is good

that non heart is good

that dullness and deadness and insensitivity is good

people who imply it

in even the slightest

are bastards in my book

Alcohol's pretty good bro, you're missin out.

you're insane

anyone who enjoys it is a fucking idiot

obviously

their enjoyment is false too

just a chemical reaction to the poisoning

nowt wrong with chemical reactions

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christianity is stupid
communism is good

Half of which the guy in your avatar applies.
Nice one, dickhead.

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Go back to church.

prove me wrong then

Mmmmno

Then by consuming alcohol knowing that its only the chemical reaction which you need to get over any socially crippling bullshit that you may have you are a fucking idiot.

If you cant be happy and enjoy yourself as much without it then I feel sorry for you.

If you want a discussion about it go make a thread because i don't think this thread had anything to do with alcohol.

You contributed to it going off course as much as me by trying to throw a childish comment at me.

Not saying i didn't. Just saying if you want to debate it then make a thread.

Oh my god, are you trying to get some sort of fucking saint status or something? Get real.

The ladder theory is reality, with some stipulations. I came in here to post how I feel about this, and I read Cody's post, and Cody is right. You're all wrong. Sorry.

I have a girlfriend. But, if I didn't have a girlfriend, and one of my relatively hot friends that are girls came up to me and wanted to get all up on my dick, I would do it. Who cares? Since I'm taken I obviously don't do that, but I still think about it sometimes, because I'm a fucking human being.

My girlfriend is also quite comfortable with me having a bunch of friends that are girls. She has a bunch of friends that are guys, and I don't mind that either. If she wanted to hook up with them or date them, she wouldn't be dating me. I don't feel like having a leash on my girlfriend.

I also don't put effort into being friends with ugly girls. Sorry, that's reality. We can't all be saints like Victor here.

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Who mentioned anything about lowering your standards to ugly girls? Clearly people of any gender who are obese or do not care about their appearance enough have some kind of mental disorder/problem. Anyone who would bring harm to their body through large intakes of food or cannot brush their hair/teeth etc have unresolved issues.

Also not wanting to bring harm to yourself or those you call friends does not make me a saint. Because I choose not to associate myself with those kinds of people doesn't change how I view myself.

err all emotion and pleasure is just chemical reactions...

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You are clearly an idiot.

There's no way you can be older than 13 years old.

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Explain how I am wrong? PLEASE! By simply insulting me you are refusing to debate against something you feel I am wrong about. Yet you do not say your opinion on the matter. Please take apart my post if you wish and take the time to prove me wrong rather than insult me, it says more about you than it does about me!

Neil
Yep, but these are naturally occurring chemical reactions. I do not take drugs to cause reactions for me to love the people I am with, I simply love them. If I where to take mushrooms or alcohol so that I love my friends or to tolerate their being that wouldn't make me a good person and it shows that they are really not the people for me if I have to lower myself just to feel positive feelings towards them. Or to boost my positive feelings towards them, what is that? Sober I do not love them as much as I would under a substance?

Or even taking these for your own personal pleasure, are you unhappy enough that you need some vice to improve your happiness? These are signs of a destructive lifestyle.

Some people use drugs (alcohol as the example here) for fun, because it displaces them from how they normally feel. So long as they do this knowing the consequences, why is it wrong? It's not destructive in moderation. What does it matter if chemicals are naturally occuring or not? Alcohol is a chemical produced through naturally occuring materials. It's a poison, but then we eat/drink a lot of naturally occuring poisons without realising it.

If you take your line that only 'naturally occuring chemicals are good', then people shouldn't take painkillers because they're not 'naturally occuring'. If someone's dying we shouldn't give them medicine to ease the pain or attempt to cure them because again, it's not 'naturally occuring'. Legal, recreational drugs such as alcohol are amusing to some because they change their frame of mind. Why is that so wrong to you?

Some people take great pleasure doing life threatening sports/activities like bungee jumping or EXTREME mountain climbing. This makes them happy. Would you object to that because of the danger? They'd just laugh at you and tell you it was fun, that they knew what they were doing. Humanity doesn't live in a bubble, people are curious and like to do things that may harm them in order to experience a new sensation or feeling.

As Neil said happiness is just a chemical reaction, most emotions/thoughts you have are linked to chemicals. What does it matter if they're all fully natural or not? We're not apes. I don't know if you're a joke account or whatever, but really, your method of conveying your opinions ('YOU'RE ALL WRONG AND YOU DISGUST ME') is hardly that of a debate.

You should note I don't drink either. I don't think I'm better than anyone who drinks, though I admit it's damn boring to be at a party when you're the only sober one. But hey if I could drive I'd feel damn useful.

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Okay, I'm going to tell you why you're wrong.

You're making a loose generalization that at least a considerable amount of people drink or do drugs because they 'don't love' or 'can't tolerate' the people they're with, so they do substances in order to love them. That's fucking idiotic and shows you know absolutely nothing about what you're talking about. I enjoy the company of the people I drink with when I'm sober also, it's just a fun thing to do. You obviously have no idea why MOST people drink or use substances. Sure, it's not the most healthy thing to do, but it's not like everyone does it to hide some hidden pain and secretly try and cope with life. Go watch more public service announcements.

I drink occasionally with my friends, does that make it a vice?

Doing something fun with my friends that makes me happy is a sign of a destructive lifestyle? Man, I should really stop trying to have fun, I'm on a downward spiral into a destructive lifestyle.

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